[New Episode] Scaling With Productized Services

"When people talk about scale, they really mean leverage." – Greg Hickman, Founder of AltAgency

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This week, we welcome Greg Hickman on the show. He is an industry veteran and Founder of AltAgency, a consultancy that helps agencies, service providers, and freelancers drive growth without sacrificing their nights and weekends by packaging their expertise, installing systems for growth, and leveraging automation to save time.

In this episode, Greg shares his philosophy for setting up systems, defining your core customer base, and productizing your offering to enable repeatable growth.

Here’s what we cover:

• The evolution of Greg’s company, his founder journey, and how the offering has shifted over time.

• The concept of affinity in verticalized businesses and why specialization wins.

• Greg’s take on customized offering versus productized services.

• Scaling through monetizing expertise, not just headcount.

Here are some actionable key takeaways for agency founders:

• Scaling isn’t about arriving at a destination, it’s about having a continuum where you have room for growth.

• You need to have affinity with the vertical you’re serving; empathy builds success.

• Starting out, try different things to find your sweet spot, but then narrow it down.

• Productizing services creates efficiencies, and efficiencies grow businesses.

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CQ

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Frequently Asked Questions

What does Greg Hickman mean by "when people talk about scale, they really mean leverage"?

That true scaling isn't just about growing headcount or revenue, it's about creating leverage through systems, productized offerings, and automation that let growth happen without proportionally increasing effort.

What is "affinity" in the context of verticalized businesses, according to Greg Hickman?

A genuine connection or empathy with the specific vertical being served, discussed as essential to specialization success, since real affinity for a market builds the understanding needed to serve it well.

How does Greg Hickman distinguish between customized offerings and productized services?

As two different approaches to delivering value, with productized services creating efficiencies that customized, one-off offerings inherently can't achieve, a distinction central to his philosophy on scalable growth.

Why does Greg Hickman describe scaling as "a continuum" rather than a destination?

Because scaling isn't a fixed endpoint to arrive at, it's an ongoing process with room for continued growth, a mindset that reframes scaling as perpetual rather than something to complete and move past.

What does it mean to scale by "monetizing expertise, not just headcount"?

Growing revenue and impact by packaging and leveraging existing expertise more efficiently, rather than simply adding more people to handle more work, a core principle behind AltAgency's approach to helping agencies grow.